tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20481915265453356832024-02-20T02:24:46.707-06:00Going DeafDena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-91134883174604741312010-11-09T10:54:00.002-06:002010-11-09T10:58:23.104-06:00Rare OpportunityHi folks! Some of you know I became involved in an organization called Global Deaf Muslim. One of their current missions is to raise enough money to fund the research to create an ASL version of the Quran (the Muslim holy book). If you live or would like to go to Chicago for the fundraiser, please go <a href="http://www.globaldeafmuslim.org/">here</a> You will have the chance at helping a full segment of the Deaf population know their religion. Also, I will be presenting :) Please consider going to help us have enough money to fund the project. Thanks!Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-7864037550719353512010-01-16T20:38:00.001-06:002010-01-16T20:43:41.610-06:00What's up?!<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TujFKCPnRwM&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TujFKCPnRwM&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br /><br />Text of the video:<br /><br />Hello all!<br /><br />I know it's been a long time sing I've vlogged, so what's up with me?<br /><br />It's been about a year since I've been around.<br /><br />I've started college, and have been really busy studying and learning more, so now my brain knows more!<br /><br />I'm studying to become a computer technician, so say if your computer breaks, I can fix it.<br /><br />Also, some of you might remember "Muslim Hands".<br /><br />Well, it's not really good.<br /><br />It was good to inform people about Muslims, yes, but the name "Muslim hands" was already taken by an organization in Britain.<br /><br />So soon I'm going to brainstorm some new ideas and names for the project.<br /><br />My health has been great.<br /><br />I haven't had a seizure in about a month.<br /><br />So yeah, I just wanted to let you all know what was going on in my life since I haven't been around for a year!<br /><br />So that's what's up.<br /><br />Thanks!Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-32231337494223871712008-11-18T14:56:00.001-06:002008-11-18T14:56:08.887-06:00wants to know of a funny or cute computer virus. Any suggestions?Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-89433291923755681922008-11-11T16:46:00.001-06:002008-11-11T16:46:41.982-06:00James finally got his MSI Wind. Review posting later.Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-911905860093296132008-11-11T05:59:00.001-06:002008-11-11T05:59:39.817-06:00says good morning. Having coffee and then off to school.Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-43673124563868058062008-11-10T23:29:00.001-06:002008-11-10T23:29:10.729-06:00going to bed now, good night <3Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-25207081331732392472008-11-10T22:51:00.001-06:002008-11-10T22:51:31.014-06:00learning the in's and out's of ping.fm again. Testing 1 2 3...Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-23785985774125989032008-09-18T12:00:00.003-05:002008-09-19T11:42:45.884-05:00All about InterpretersSo this post will be about interpreters. I've had some interesting encounters recently that I would like to share.<br /><br />As some of you know, I recently was fitting fo rmy first hearing aid. I brought along my trusted friend and interpreter that goes to all of my appointments with medical. So we got there and got up to the receptionist. <br /><br />This poor woman *laughs*. She must have been around 80. I signed and my interpreter spoke "Hello , my name is Dena, I'm here for my appointment". The woman was looking at me and in sign asked "Please again". I signed "you need to listen to the interpreter!" She spoke "I didn't catch all of what you were signing". I could have died, but it gets worse. I started explaining that's why I have an interpreter, so you can speak normally to me. She said well I didn't need an interpreter, she knew how to sign. *ouch!* The last straw was she had me fill out some paperwork, and she signed "please sign (as in ASL sign! lol) your name here". You had to have been there, it was quite a chuckle.<br /><br />Educational interpreting is something I am just getting used to. This is the first year I am with interpreters for my classes. But is it just me or are they unaware that when I ask for no moithing of the words and less English word order and signs, it just confuses me more? I'm not sure one of my interpreters understands that. I've asked her politely during a break in class, but she still mouthes words like a fish. Yes, I understand English, but that doesn't mean I want my interpretation in English format. How do I politely tell her again to quit it?<br /><br />That's it for now on that subject, but I'm sure I'll have plenty more to say in the comments. Thanks for reading and enjoy your weekend!Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-66105691156762460332008-09-18T12:00:00.002-05:002008-09-18T12:05:27.380-05:00Tully's being bought*Not Deaf news, sorry!*<br /><br />I just open up the website for the Seattle PI, and they say that Tully's (a major coffee chain in Seattle, next to Starbucks and Seattle's Best) is being bought out. <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/149048.asp">Here is the link</a><br /><br />How do I feel? A little piece of me just died :( Well, the coffee addicted anyway. Growing up in the eye of the storm, seeing Starbucks florish, as well as many mom and pop coffee shops getting their stand. Living now in Illinois, we don't have Tully's. I miss their bitter bitter! coffee. So, it's going East Coast. I hope you guys like strong coffee *laughs* I guess it's okay though since we still have Starbucks to hold on to. Happy drinking!Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-63078400743549404462008-09-16T09:46:00.002-05:002008-09-16T09:57:02.046-05:00I'm Loud?!Sorry for the lack of posting lately. I have been busy with school and work life, but here is a sort of update and story.<br /><br />I tend to be very self concious when it comes to my voice. I can speak so people assume I can speechread everything. Not so. Additionally, if I talk in class, they assume I can hear them. I have an interpreter for 2 out of 3 of my classes, so I'm in good hands. I sign and am free.<br /><br />Friday and today, I've come into "disability awareness". People are looking at me strange when I talk, or even laugh. Is my laugh really THAT BAD?! Well, a friend of mine those two days told me I was too loud. Hmmm. So am I loud to hearing people or just loud in general? I'm not quite sure; I'm going to ask him later.<br /><br />I've never really noticed the volume of my voice because I'm always trying hard to make it sound comprehensible. The interpreter cannot be with me 24/7, so I have to make due. It's good to have a pal though who's telling me I'm too loud. COming from another community college where Deaf, ASL students, and ITP students were normal, and just about any noise was no cause for alarm out of us. <br /><br />I admire my friend. He said he's trying to keep people from staring. He seems to be strong in his mind, much mmore than I am. The pair of us though, we must be funny. He's in a wheelchair and I'm trying to talk to him. It makes me giggle how we must look :)<br /><br />So, I'm loud? Turn your ears off!Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-44490266511328561882008-07-19T22:31:00.004-05:002008-07-19T22:36:07.550-05:00CODA Brothers DVD!Hello all, I just wanted to let you know that the CODA Brothers DVD has finally launched and is running at a reduced intro price of $29.95 until July 31st. There is 2 videos that are not available on YouTube, the set is expanded, and an interview about what is a CODA. Go <a href="http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=19471">HERE</a> to buy.Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-17127874892029803622008-06-27T21:20:00.001-05:002008-06-27T21:20:00.510-05:00Accessibility on the Internet<p>Hello all.  Today marks the last day that chairman Bill Gates sits in the hot seat at Microsoft.  Lots of journalists, enthusiasts, and writers have done extensive montages dedicated to BillyG, so I won't bore you with it all.</p> <p>So today being the day, I figured <a href="http://www.microsoft.com">http://www.microsoft.com</a> would get in on the action as well.  They have, and right up on the first screen is an ad for a video montage about his early years and such.  Great! I thought.  Microsoft has always been great about having their online videos captioned if you have that option enabled in your computer settings.  So I clicked it and no captioning.</p> <p>Hmmm.</p> <p>Okay, maybe it's because I'm in Firefox, I mean FF3 DID just come out.  I'll try IE7.  </p> <p>Still no captions.</p> <p>ARGH!</p> <p>Okay check the settings, setting are fine.  </p> <p>I'm told on Microsoft's ENABLE page that "Our vision is to create innovative technology that is accessible to everyone and that adapts to each person's needs. Accessible technology eliminates barriers for people with disabilities and it enables individuals to take full advantage of their capabilities."  Well it sure doesn't look like the reigns will be handed down if THIS is considered accessible.  I demand that Microsoft transcribe all of the montage videos or caption them.  I'll say now that I am a beta tester for them and this does not make me happy one bit.  I've tested accessibility in products, but it seems some have been forgotten.  <strong><em><u>WE</u></em></strong> however will not be forgotten about.</p> Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-2775078651742375332008-06-24T12:53:00.002-05:002008-06-24T13:08:15.636-05:00My Lousy Signing SkillsIn reference to a comment on <a href="http://www.crazydeafjoe.net/2008/06/why-should-you-quit-using-sorensonvrs/">this blog</a> (note that it is a comment left on the blog and not the actually blog post.) If you need a transcript, let me know, but I think you can gather what I'm trying to say.<iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dxQCS61QBmZ8WkyBlFgU4EGwPMrfsD-_q8WKJQMm8yLmtxKGNcewvV43IVVMsR4x29WcTodqVmhpLMnxZ_WwQ' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe>Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-59668870884838013292008-06-15T21:53:00.005-05:002008-06-15T23:22:38.992-05:00Where I Am<iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dxC9ijbsoRLWkPy5__2-EhV9UVYFHG4p1fAfbmt9n0DMCUHZtg-7zIni9vZMxzbHTf3C0UP9Q3KQkbwdfen' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe><br /><br />I've sat here for about a week wondering what to think and do over all of the mess with DeafRead, people getting ousted, leaving, attacking each other, etc. It's all very much to take and to be honest, in the end, it doesn't matter. At least, I thought it didn't.<br /><br />Then DeafVillage came into the picture and then things really got confusing for me. I guess maybe it's because I still don't really know where I fit into the community (do I even FIT?). <br /><br />We aren't supposed to look at this as a medical condition, but as I see daily in my life, it is. Growing up culturally Deaf, some of you don't have my experience. I understand that. So what am I supposed to do when the two worlds that are suppose to co-exist together suddenly clash; lash out at each other; then try to pry apart from one another with wounds and go separate ways? <br /><br />I sign, I speak, I can hear some, I use hearing aids (soon), but this is all driving me crazy. Why can't we all get along, seriously?! Please don't make me choose between you all.Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com11tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-19499150055743300282008-05-29T19:52:00.002-05:002008-05-29T20:06:12.677-05:00Fed Up With Sorenson!<OBJECT class=BLOG_video_class id=BLOG_video-e42da275a1cc58b6 height=266 width=320 contentId="e42da275a1cc58b6"></OBJECT>Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-9883748395332221652008-05-22T20:02:00.003-05:002008-05-22T20:24:19.861-05:00Learning New Signs<iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dwNmmpOHvyJ9oF-0xJ8FtG2QFuRzmSOjxnKgJS2VducU3rsQdmDPFHGVFX237EQJI2AEAGG0ncXz3u-FM_t0A' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe>Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-79773389815797761552008-05-20T15:50:00.002-05:002008-05-20T16:02:22.596-05:00Tips on Meeting Deaf-BlindHello again! I'm sorry, I know it has been a long time since i have written in my blog, but life happens sometimes!<br /><br />Last night I went the the Deaf Advisory Committee for the Illini Deaf and learned so much on the Deaf-Blind community. I wanted to let you all know what I learned so that maybe we can all pass this information on to the people who have yet to know.<br /><br />1. Treat the deaf-blind person as you treat anyone else. Always be natural - never patronizing in your questions and your actions.<br />2. Address a deaf-blind person directly, not through someone else. Speak by forming the letters of the manual alphabet distinctly while he or she holds one hand lightly over yours to feel the position of your fingers. be careful to move your fingers directly from the position of one letter to the next and pause slightly between words. If deaf-blind persons are unfamiliar with the manual alphabet, you can print capital letters in their palm. be sure to pause between words.<br />3. Use the words "see," and "hear," or "blind" naturally, without hesitation if your conversation calls for them.<br />4. Let the deaf-blind person know when you enter or leave the room. Always say who you are.<br />5. Offer your arm when walking with a deaf-blind person. Do not push him or her ahead of you; let them hold your arm, just below the elbow.<br />6. You do not have to physically support a deaf-blind person who is entering a car or train or going upstairs. just place their hand on the door-knob or stair rail for guidance. You need not help deaf-blind persons to sit down; just help the put one of their hands on the back of a chair so they can judge its position.<br />7. Describe things that are happening - or are about to happen - around you when you are with a deaf-blind person.<br />8. Show deaf-blind persons that you are confident they can do useful things. This is an important form of encouragement.<br />9. Remember that your behavior toward deaf-blind persons will not only affect your attitude, but may be important in reinforcing the attitudes of their family and friends.Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-47500651810927534902008-02-25T20:15:00.002-06:002008-02-25T20:24:58.880-06:00Bad Relay ServiceToday I woke up needing a haircut. Yes, needing. I was still in my sleep clothes, so I decided to just text the call to my favorite salon. Normally, I walk in and they see me on the spot, but I wanted to have other work done as well, so I thought I had better make the block of time for them. I called and the front desk and I exchanged the services I needed. She asked me my name and I gave her my first name. I then expected her to ask for my last name, but there was nothing. For about 2 minutes, there was no notification of anything. Nothing from the relay, nothing happening. Then I got a message that the hearing caller hung up. Wait, what?! <br /><br />So what happened? I don't have a clue. Did the salon not understand the relay? Did the relay not explain clearly what the user needs to do? I suspect maybe that those stupid pranksters who use relay to prank businesses had something to do with this, and maybe the front desk person thought this wasn't a real call. Why else would she just hang up?<br /><br />More importantly, why wasn't I notified of anything happening for 2 minutes? Some relays I'm beginning to find are very good while others are very bad, and even the same company can have one bad service and the other is the best service I've had. How strange!Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-82672742188794463542008-02-19T21:18:00.004-06:002008-02-19T21:42:12.252-06:00The Long Goodbye<iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dz4-J3lxrjesqPRxrXluxLQywmpZV9JC90PnDKV7I1VWJRX42-cE6FA923IYxs8trpMkbaarhUKdEelbDa8Hg' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe><br /><br />Hello! How are you all doing? I know it’s been a long time since I’ve vlogged. I’ve got something to explain to you. Tonight my husband came back from Chicago on the train. He asked me “Why is the house so dirty?! Didn’t you clean?!!” Well, you know the Yahoo Live! Chat? I’ve been in there for about 3 or 4 days now. I didn’t do anything else. I didn’t clean the house. That sure was a mistake on my part! I shouldn’t have neglected my chores. Anyway, I tried to explain to my husband that deaf culture…wait, let me start again. In hearing culture, when you’re on the phone, you say good bye, the other person says good bye, and the conversation is over. From what I learned of deaf culture is “the long goodbye”. It means you say good bye, but 2 hours, 3 hours later, you’re still chatting away. Finally, later, you say good bye and part ways. So I was trying to explain that to my husband. He wasn’t buying it. I know a lot of people here on Yahoo Live! Chat want the communication. In the hearing world, it's all spoken word. The deaf world, here we chat and communicate and carry on like there’s no tomorrow. I think maybe that’s why some of us stay so long in the chat. I really tried to explain it to my husband but he didn’t get it. You know, he’s in a hearing frame of mind. Soon, I might whittle down my chat usage so I’m not addicted to it. I really need to clean the house. Man, it is SO dirty. For 4 days, I didn’t do ANYTHING! Yuck! Hopefully you all don’t neglect your chores, partners or your family. Oh, and most importantly, don’t neglect your pets! Your cats, dogs, what have you. I love you all, bye!Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-72713063013907773412008-02-16T12:55:00.002-06:002008-02-16T13:00:49.677-06:00The Day DeafRead Went DeadIt all started with a harmless link. The editors sent a link to the Main Page informing everyone about a new video chat service by Yahoo that we should try and since they were on there, we could try it then. So of course I clicked. What I didn't' know was that I was going to be there for the next 7 hours having the time of my life! So many people joined into the conversation it seemed all of DeafRead was there. As Amy said in her post though, do bring Tylenol or your favorite anti-headache medicine. It can get confusing to see who is talking to who. But we all were having so much fun in there, hardly anyone posted on DeafRead. I had the first installment of Ask A Muslim ready to cam, but I was too busy being in the chat to film it *smiles*. Have fun in there guys, but remember we should still b/vlog!Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-76813146485906066082008-02-15T13:59:00.000-06:002008-02-15T14:08:30.381-06:00Free Webcam Service by i711.com<iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dxW0F1Sf4TrJPPEkcnqVEeML4LqhiaRigosReQFSeb7As-lktR7lTwpfDK8SpyM8ccL4sPz-IPJubce51M6Vg' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe>Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-33131842032571186652008-02-13T18:57:00.000-06:002008-02-13T18:58:07.988-06:00My 2 Cents On Captions/New Vlog Format<object width="452" height="415"><param name="movie" value="http://www.overstream.net/swf/player/oplx?oid=ajrll1n9nne3&noplay=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.overstream.net/swf/player/oplx?oid=ajrll1n9nne3&noplay=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="452" height="415" allowFullScreen="true"></embed></object>Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-33504018551144380272008-02-10T21:45:00.000-06:002008-02-10T22:24:13.394-06:00Deaf Crazy Bowling!My bad day leading up to Deaf Crazy Bowling and Social. Needless to say, I had a blast!<br /><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dzOsldDKdjvxFKZPwu1tzzHUKIuxpuMOUG16tQBu-v8uCeKT1xlvfMM3CHkT7qQVHmPJ8hVSNcMqndphy_k1g' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe>Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-49577178643113401962008-02-08T20:42:00.000-06:002008-02-08T20:43:28.161-06:00A Few QuestionsJust a few questions for the community because I really need to know!<br /><br /><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/r2JpIzNz38I&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/r2JpIzNz38I&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>Dena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2048191526545335683.post-35613545025336075482008-02-07T20:33:00.000-06:002008-02-07T20:45:37.973-06:00Take away the Muslim...Just DeafSo I think the time has come that I stop talking about islam this and Muslim that. Deaf Read readers apparently don't want to hear about my endevors on completely translating on my own the entire Quran? Fine. Deaf first. i get it. Let's stay equal, after all we are all deaf. Are we? i go back to my first post, you read it right? oh you didn't? Ah, see that's why. <br /><br />Recently I read about a person being attacked by the words of another person, and basically the comment was that the post writer was not deaf because he could "hear" his cell phone ring (the blog was talking about notifications of flight delays and such). The poster wrote back to the person and said that the cell was on vibrate and he felt it, and answered it. <br /><br />It's things like this that really disgust me about people's judgment. That, and feeling like I have to be deaf first and Muslim second. Right now, being in this town, there is little to no activity, yet my heart is strong. <br /><br />When I first started learning to sign, my teacher said I had a gift, and I didn't' believe her. I only believed her when people praised my signing ability. At my great-uncle's death, the preacher had worked with the deaf and knew I had a good heart he told me. It left me wondering where to go.<br /><br />I see that even though I put my heart and soul into just one blog post, people don't' get it, and i don't' understand why. Deaf have been oppressed for ages, yes, and I'm trying to do something about it. Deaf Muslims in particular have been kept from their religion just as some deaf have been kept from their culture and language. So I tried to help them by the translation.<br /><br />I guess I expected too much. You guys aren't' Muslim, why should you care about a translation of a book you could care less about? *sighs* I don't' know where I stand in the blogging right now. I was just trying to be helpful.<br /><br />-DenaDena Reiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920871509634176436noreply@blogger.com9